Prophet Abraham SUH and HRP known as Guru Brahmma is father to all Syeds, Brahmins, Shaikhs (from Brahmin lineage)

Hello all, This is a simple of a coversation in an email conference. On Friday, 17 June, 2022, 04:26:39 pm IST, Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <> wrote: Some remain using the secular word Hindu/Sindhu for describing people of avatars, the descent of the Word of Allah awaiting acceptance of NAKLANKI and KALKI since prophet Abraham SUH and HRP known as Guru Brahmma is father to all Syeds, Brahmins, Shaikhs (from Brahmin lineage). This much needs to be realized with the prayer of prophet Abraham SUH and HRP known as Guru Brahmma for being among the MUSLIMEEN. Thus, all are default muslims and muslimas in so far as the lineage to Noah AS known as Manu and Adam AS, the first Muslim Khalifatullah is concerned. This is the reason, prophet Mohammad SUH and HRS married from all from among the people of prophet Abraham SUH and HRS known as Guru Brahmma and those who accepted the mission of prophet Mohammad SUH and HRS. Muhammad Mukhtar Alam,Ph.D. Cognitive Clinical Psychologist and Development Professional |Communicating for 7.81 billions united in allegiance to 49th Imam and Fatemi Khalifatullah Mowlana Kareem Shah Al Hussaini post debates on the academic conclusions on the sole thesis on the reference to Lord Ramachandra's vasudhaiv kutumbkum declaration referred in the Congress Manifesto of 1989.| Founders of Mushkil Kusha Mental Health Rehabilitation Private (2016), Abrahimic Quartet/Octet Unity Centre (2020), Movement for Transition to Post Carbon Green India (2008) ,Ecostrategic Communicators for Carbon-Neutral Leisure (2009), Indian Muslim Economic Development Agency (2010) , , Center for Ecological Audit ,Social Inclusion and Governance (2003), Sarva Gunwatta Abhiyan (2017), National Campaign for Nutrition for Dignity (2014), Campaign Againt Child Labour (1995), Campaign Against Child Trafficking ,(2000) International Youth for Humanity (1989) Papers and Presentations at http://slideshare.net/mukhtaralam On Tuesday, 14 June, 2022, 03:06:36 am IST, Muzafferuddin ahmed wrote: The fools have no idea. Without going to Kaaba. Not circulating around Kabaa, A Muslim can be a good Muslim. Jerks never read any good books. They have no idea and have no basic knowledge about Islamic beliefs. Just cries. On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:14 PM Prem Sadani wrote: Circumambulating anti clockwise around the so called black stone is nothing but the worship of Lord Shiva. Essentially, Muslims are Lord Shiva worshippers. Long back I had posted article on this subject. I will try to find it again and post. On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 6:32 AM JJ wrote: And rotating anti-clockwise seven times around an alleged Religious symbol, is a Hindu ritual. Saudis make plenty Moolah by this Cubed building. Most majority attending are Islam-Crazy Pakistanis. -----Original Message----- From: JJ < Sent: Mon, Jun 13, 2022 8:18 am Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS The K'abaa is also a Hoax. It was a Pagan Temple before, by force it was converted into "House of Allah,"....Zabardasti. Anything forced is quite useless. @yahoo.com>; G Sent: Sun, Jun 12, 2022 12:20 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Harami We are looking for the direction to K’aba, not the black stone, Zaneem. You know it but are forced to lie by your bad DNA. Even without the Black Stone there, Muslims still faced Mecca to pray when the stone was moved to Bahrain for many years. It is just like the Jews face the site of their temple in Jerusalem, even if the “ Temple Mount “ is covered by the Dome of the Rock. Zaneem, get some education before making a fool of yourself in public. Tera Guru Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Mir Usman wrote:  Then why the fuck they keep asking where is qibla? where is qibla? Bloody slaves of arabs and product of concubines. Porn star of 7th century has put honey on your elbows for Randi baazee here and up. Now your own women will screw you, what for us? Sent from my iPhone On 12-Jun-2022, at 9:26 PM, Muzafferuddin ahmed wrote:  Muslim pray in trains, in planes, open ground, in home, in Masjid congregation. No need for any symbol. On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 5:19 PM Khawaja Anwar wrote: Bahrsm Have you seen a single Muslim in India, praying behind a reproduction ( in pictorial / 3 D ) of the “ black stone” ever?? You are a big liar too. You still have not told us the name of a single Persian, pre Islamic scientist. It has been more than a year since I asked you this question, liar, Gurudev Sent from my iPhone On Jun 12, 2022, at 5:14 AM, Bahram Shahmardaan wrote:  But idiots claim that the black stone is not an idol. Go figure. On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 2:57 PM Vikram C wrote: MSA, Thank you for the information. Vikram On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 7:31 PM Msa40 wrote: Here is a brief story of the Black Stone on the wall of Ka'aba: The Stone has suffered desecrations and significant damage over the course of time. It is said to have been struck and smashed to pieces by a stone fired from a catapult during the Umayyad siege of Mecca in 683. The fragments were rejoined by Abd Allah ibn Zubayr using a silver ligament. In January 930, it was stolen by the Qarmatians, who carried the Black Stone away to their base in Hajar (modern Bahrain). According to Ottoman historian Qutb al-Din, writing in 1857, Qarmatian leader Abu Tahir al-Qarmati set the Black Stone up in his own mosque, the Masjid al-Dirar, with the intention of redirecting the hajj away from Mecca. However, this failed, and pilgrims continued to venerate the spot where the Black Stone had been. According to historian Al-Juwayni, the Stone was returned twenty-three years later, in 952. The Qarmatians held the Black Stone for ransom, and forced the Abbasids to pay a huge sum for its return. It was wrapped in a sack and thrown into the Friday Mosque of Kufa, accompanied by a note saying, “By command we took it, and by command we have brought it back.” Its abduction and removal caused further damage, breaking the stone into seven pieces. Its abductor, Abu Tahir, is said to have met a terrible fate; according to Qutb al-Din, “the filthy Abu Tahir was afflicted with a gangrenous sore, his flesh was eaten away by worms, and he died a most terrible death.” Back Stone was Smashed and smeared In the 11th century, a man allegedly sent by the Fatimid Caliph Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah attempted to smash the Black Stone, but was killed on the spot, having caused only slight damage. In 1674, according to Johann Ludwig Burckhardt, someone smeared the Black Stone with excrement so that “every one who kissed it retired with a sullied beard”. The Shi’ite Persians were suspected of being responsible and were the target of curses from other Muslims for centuries afterwards, though explorer Sir Richard Francis Burton doubted that they were the culprits; he attributed the act to “some Jew or Greek, who risked his life to gratify a furious bigotry.” During the civil war between the caliph Abd al-Malik and Ibn Zubayr who controlled Mecca, the Kaaba was set on fire in 683 C.E. Reportedly, the Black Stone broke into three pieces. Ibn Zubayr reassembled it with silver. He rebuilt the Kaaba in wood and stone, following Ibrahim’s original dimensions and also paved the space around the Kaaba. Unquote Muslims, in their prayer, don't face the Ka'aba. They face the Grand Mosque in Mecca! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Vikram C < Sent: Fri, Jun 10, 2022 3:35 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Mr. Muzaffaruddin Ahmad, Let me first say that I respect all religions and I do not like to get into these controversies, unless someone needs correction. You have bragged that Muslims worship One God 'Worshipping One and only God. Unseen, no shape and no Form'. Now I know that Muslims turn to Mecca five times a day and pray - who are you praying to? Mecca is a city. Are you praying to the city? No. You are praying to that Kaba. OK. Now what is inside that Kaba? Inside that Kaba is a black stone - right? Don't lie to me. That black stone looks like a Shiv Ling. Now Muslims don't like to hear that. And that is OK with me. But I understand that when the Prophet and his army took control of Mecca, they broke all the idols, except the black stone. And I understand that the prophet kissed that black stone. That black stone is in that Kaba and you are praying to that black stone. And I really don't care who you pray to, but why are you saying 'no shape, no form'? You are praying to that black stone, which I understand is holy to you. I also learnt that a few times there were attempts to destroy that stone by none other than those Muslims who think that they should not be praying to that stone, and that is why Saudi Arabia has armed men standing there to protect Kaba. So, Muslims are also praying to some form. I know 'truth' is something that Muslims don't like. But isn't that true? On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 5:01 PM Msa40 wrote: Which Islamic Cchool of Theology do you belong to? Sabians don't worship Allah. They worship the Sun! Do you know where they lived or live today? Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Muzafferuddin ahmed <> Sent: Fri, Jun 10, 2022 1:38 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Yes all Jews, Hindus, Christian, Sabian all will go to Jannah. What is wrong with it? That means you did not understand what religion actually is. Criteria : 1. Worshipping One and only God. Unseen, no shape and no Form. a. Christian/Jews say God is one. Unseen, no shape and no Form. b. Hindus say the real Eashwar ( God ) is one only. Unseen, no shape and no Form. c. Muslim say Allah ( God ) is the one and only. Unseen, no shape and no form 2. Those who will do good deeds will go to Jannah ( Heaven ) a. Christians/Jews say who will do good deeds will go to Heaven ( Jannah ) b. Hindus say who will do Pun ( Good Deeds ) will go to Swarg ( Jannah ) c. Muslims say who will do Amalo Saleh ( Good Deeds ) will go to Jannah ( Heaven ) 3. Those who will do Evil deeds will go to Hell ( Dozakh ) a. Christians/Jews say who will do evil deeds will go to Hell ( Dozakh ) b. Hindus say who will do Paap ( Evil Deeds ) will go to Narak ( Hell, Dozakh ) c. Muslims say who will do Amaal Al Sharirah ( Evil Deeds ) will go to Dozakh ( Hell ) In this world there are two forces One Human Forces and the Other Satanic Forces. There is tussle between these forces. i.e Example. Like me - Human Forces Like You - Satanic Forces. Where is the difference: The Jews and Christians made their prophets as their Son of God. Jews made Uzair a.s. as their son of god. Where Christian made Jesus the son of god. Even they called the Holy Ghost also god. Hindus go further they say Penis is a god. Everything is the god. Snake, Pig, Elephant, Rat, Men, Women all gods goddesses or god incarnations. What God has done: When the Jews/Christians/Hindus/Sabaiyeen went against the true guidance of Monotheism. The God rejected them and sent Mohammed PBUH with the divine message the Holy Quran a divine living constitution and principles of Monotheism. Those who believe Oneness of God, what is wrong with them if they accept prophet Mohammed PBUH as messenger. He brought the same message as you had it. Rest judge the teaching of Islam is good for or bad. If the Holy Quran guides you to do good deeds and forbid you to do evil deeds. You judge it is good for humanity then follow it. No compulsion., Only the book The Holy Quran on earth which asked readers to do good deeds for 1000 times. On Fri, Jun 10, 2022 at 11:07 PM Msa40 wrote: Sabians worship the sun. Quran says they should have no fear, implying they too will enter heaven on the so-called Day of Judgment! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Muzafferuddin ahmed < Sent: Thu, Jun 9, 2022 5:51 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Dilip, I will explain to you simply. Because you people need proper education. 1. Atheist - Arabic Kafir - Hindi Nastik - Adharmi - in English Non-Believer or Atheist. 2. Monotheist - Believer of One and Only God. Arabic: Muslim Hindi : Astik in English Believer 3. Polytheist - Believe in Multiple gods and Goddesses. Arabic: Mushrik Hindi: Astik, English: Associates to god. 4. Pagan : Mushrik - Multiple Gods, Polytheist. Polytheists actually call people who worship many gods or associate many creatures as gods. Men, women, stones, animals, sun, moon, fire. etc. To understand any book or read any book you must learn the glossary. On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 9:43 PM Msa40 wrote: Dilip This is my addition to what I have said earlier in response to your comment: N. J. Dawood's translation of verse 2:221 reads: "You shall not wed pagan women, unless they embrace the Faith [Islam] ....." Pagan women were those women who worshipped a multitude of idols in the time of Muhammad! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin Sent: Mon, Jun 6, 2022 10:40 am Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Dear Mohammad, I have four versions of Koran books and have read it from the first line till the last. Honestly, I could not believe my eyes. I do not see any sign of pluralism or tolerance for Hindus based on my own reading the N. J. Dawood's version (Penguin Books). However, it is possible I may not have understood what the Koran says. I do not want to be judgmental based on my limited knowledge. I respect all good Muslims. I welcome if some Muslims, like Iftekhar and Mike (and many others), are claiming that Islam is a pluralistic faith. I hope more and more Muslim leaders will start following what Iftekhar and Mike are doing. I am a practical person. If a Muslim marries a Hindu and 1) do not ask for religious conversion and 2) ready to raise children in TWO faiths, I am here to fully support such marriage. However, if a Muslim youth talks of pluralism during dating and in the end ask for conversion, I do not have any respect for such a Love-Jihadi. Love-Jihad Defined based on Scripture Dilip Amin On Monday, June 6, 2022, 07:25:51 AM PDT, Msa40 <> wrote: Dilip, Have you read the verses of the Quran I suggested that you read to find out who, from Islam's stand, is a Muslim? You may also read verse 24:62. It clearly mentions who is a true "Believer"? Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin < Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2022 8:43 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Good, we are aligned. Hindus are not polytheists nor idol-worshipers. Now how about the rest what we (actually Mike) said in the article? · Everyone is a believer, whether you are a Muslim, Pagan or a Hindu, as far you do believe in accountability of your karma (or action). Even atheists have their beliefs. · There is no reason to believe Quran will restrict a marriage of Muslim to a Hindu (where “Hindu” should mean the person will remain the same after the marriage and till death). · A progressive Imam would perform Islamic Nikah without conversion of the Hindu party, meaning a “Hindu” can marry a Muslim without conversion. I hope all of you will say something at below link expressing your views. It is critical to help innocent Hindu and Muslim youths. We need to tell them truth, from both sides. In name of God/Allah, why will we want any innocent youths to suffer? I hope you will consider this as Godly work. Hindu-Muslim Marriage and Application of Pluralism Hindu-Muslim Marriage and Application of Pluralism A “Hindu” can marry a Muslim without conversion. Dilip Amin On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 07:59:55 PM PDT, Msa40 wrote: "Mohammad, you said, "all "Hindu Mandirs" have idols in them!", do you have problem with i" Dilip, You are missing the point. I mentioned presence of idols in mandir saying these help worshippers concentrate in the prayer. You denied it! I have no problem with idols in the mandirs. You have denied their presence saying Arya Samaj mandirs don't have them in their mandir, which is true. But other mandirs have them! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin < Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2022 7:16 pm Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS During Rig Veda time, Hinduism started with Nirankari (no name or shape) God, but apparently there was a need for common mass to help them focus on God with some forms and shapes (akari, that came during Puranas time, murti and pooja were introduced). That does not mean new Gods were created as Rig Veda explained--One God but different names. Hinduism is not frozen in a particular time, but is evolving. Mohammad, you said, "all "Hindu Mandirs" have idols in them!", do you have problem with it? Hindus don't have any problem with the murti system (Saguna or akari) along with option to worship the Ultimate in nirguna (or nirankari). I hope we are not playing a childish game that my idol is better than your idol (or doll; Read Idol Worshipper: Who is and who is not?) Idol Worshipper: Who is and who is not? Some religions have strict codes against idol-worshipping, however it is not clear what is idol-worshipping and ... This below is the way we connect with God, and I don't have any problem how ever way others do. That's true respect for others. Joy of Hinduism Joy of Hinduism Dilip Amin On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 11:21:29 AM PDT, Msa40 wrote: I believe Arya Samaj is a movement started by Dayananda Sarasvati in 1875. Hinduism, as we know it, is much older than this movement. The membership of this movement is miniscule comparing to the numbers of Hindus living in India, Nepal and all over the world. Arya Samaj (the Society of the Aryas) is opposed to idol worshiping. Its members are not Hindus. And i talked about the Hindus, not about the Arya Samaj! In my understanding, all "Hindu Mandirs" have idols in them! Please correct me if I am wrong! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin <> Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2022 10:12 am Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS This is wrong, "There is no Hindu temple anywhere in the world that does not have a murti." Go to any Araya Samaj mandir and you will not find any murti. There are many Hindus who don't believe in using murti to focus on the Ultimate. Personally, I give more important to Karma Yoga versus the Bhakti (devotion mostly using murti) yoga, but I certainly enjoy Bhakti yoga, immerse into music while focusing on God. As said, Hinduism gives us lots of choices and liberty. Murti is the same as Kaaba to Muslims and Cross to Christians. To teach Hindus--not to assume the statue is God--there is a festival Ganesh Visharjan (departure). Hindus buy an idol of Ganesh, do pran pratistha ceremony (meaning installing soul the idol, now the idol is called murti) and after some 10 days, they immerse the physical idol (not God) into ocean. It is believe one could achieve Moksha only after a Hindu detaches him/her self from the idol and lean to focus on God. Hinduism is not polytheist nor monotheist. For monotheists, there are two entities, 1) God and 2) human and rest. For Hindus, human are part of that Ultimate, not two separate entities. Thus Hindus are Monists. Can a Monist and monotheist marry without conversion? If someone does not understand Hinduism, whose fault is that? Dilip Amin On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 09:19:43 AM PDT, Msa40 <> wrote: " Shapes (eg. murtis) are not mandatory? Hindus use murtis for concentration. There is no Hindu temple anywhere in the world that does not have a murti. It does not mean they worship the murtis per se! Muslims need to face the Grand Mosque in Mecca, which acts as a "murti" for their concentration. But as it is not physically in front of them, most, if not all, Muslims lose their focus on their prayer while standing behind an Imam. This is a fact I have verified with many Muslims who pray behind Imams in the mosque! Islam unambiguously prohibits idol worshipping. To enforce this prohibition, Islam came into existence over 1400 years ago. Muslims claim that worshipping idols is an idiotic act, while acknowledging that recognition of three Satans in the form of concrete pillars is necessary to keep their faith alive! They dutifully and enthusiastically stone those statues of Satan. Many in the past got trampled to death while frantically attempting to stone those statues of three Satans! An associate of mine sarcastically asked his mother to not stone Satans when she went for hajj lest they became angry and trampled her to death by using their feet!! Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin < Sent: Sun, Jun 5, 2022 8:37 am Subject: Re: Hindu-Muslim Marriages: Mike-Dilip's new article in PATHEOS Well, Mike is to reply to most of these corrections. I see there is a major difference in beliefs of different Muslim scholars here. I am an outsider, and here to learn from you about Islam. I can reply to this one. QUOTE:A Hindu may not ask the Muslim intended spouse to convert to Hinduism but will certainly want him or her to follow certain Hindu practices. UNQUOTE:What Hindu practices? And why? Hindus believe we all are part of God or that Ultimate energy. Hindus have liberty to see God in any name or shape. Shapes (eg. murtis) are not mandatory, but is an option. While meditation, a Hindu may not use any name or shape but try to connect to your inner Atma/spirit. Hinduism is not dogmatic nor historocentric. You can read more about Hinduism at my other website Hindu Speakers Bureau | FAQs on Hinduism Hindu Speakers Bureau | FAQs on Hinduism This questions and answers document is prepared by a group of Hindu Speakers as a source of information for them... Dilip Amin On Sunday, June 5, 2022, 02:01:39 AM PDT, qaseem39us wrote: QUOTE: God does not make mistakes; instead he empowers us to figure out our own equilibrium. UNQUOTE:What equilibrium? QUOTE: Further, the Quran calls there is no compulsion in matters of faith. [Quran 2:256] UNQUOTE:There is no compulsion means there is no forcing in changing ones' religion, or, you can continue along any faith, Muslims have no problem. QUOTE: “And among His signs is that He created mates for you from among yourselves (it could mean a Muslim as well a Hindu) so that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed love and compassion between you. In these are signs for people who reflect.” [Quran 30:21] UNQUOTE:Here Muslims are addressed, not Hindus.....so, among yourself means among Muslims, where from Hindus came here? QUOTE: no reason to believe Quran will restrict a marriage of Muslim to a Hindu (where “Hindu” should mean the person will remain the same after the marriage and till death). UNQUOTE:This fantastically erroneous is your conclusion. You got cockeyed here, poor you. QUOTE: Most Islamic communities believe that a marriage must be “accepted” by Allah. UNQUOTE: THELL THOSE IDIOT COMMUNITIES THAT ALLAH IS NOT YOUR OBEDIENT SERVANT TO ACCEPT SUCH ILLICIT MARRIAGES. QUOTE:A Hindu may not ask the Muslim intended spouse to convert to Hinduism but will certainly want him or her to follow certain Hindu practices. UNQUOTE:What Hindu practices? And why? QUOTE:This verse is cited to compel conversion before marriage, but it simply says that compatibility is the key to the success of any marriage. UNQUOTE:2:221 says there isn't any compatibility among a Muslim and a mushrik Hindu. QUOTE: Everyone is a believer, whether you are a Muslim, Pagan or a Hindu, as far you do believe in accountability of your karma (or action). Even atheists have their beliefs. UNQUOTE:This is again a very skewed conclusion. QUOTE:Hindus are not polytheists nor idol-worshipers. UNQUOTE:THEN WHAT ARE THEY? They aren't Ahle Kitab, they are mushriks, not fit in marriage.....PERIOD. On Saturday, June 4, 2022 at 07:29:42 PM CDT, Dilip Amin wrote: Dear Mohammad, This is what we wrote and our logics: Scriptures It is said that if God did not want a Muslim-Hindu marriage, it would have been said in the Quran or Geeta. God does not make mistakes; instead he empowers us to figure out our own equilibrium. Further, the Quran calls there is no compulsion in matters of faith. [Quran 2:256] “And among His signs is that He created mates for you from among yourselves (it could mean a Muslim as well a Hindu) so that you may find tranquility in them; and He placed love and compassion between you. In these are signs for people who reflect.” [Quran 30:21] Indeed, the Quran is a universal book of guidance for Muslims; it does not say God puts love between two Muslims but two humans as if He has installed magnetic attraction between two individuals that brings them together. Therefore, there is no reason to believe Quran will restrict a marriage of Muslim to a Hindu (where “Hindu” should mean the person will remain the same after the marriage and till death). India’s renowned poet Ghalib writes that love happens; no one starts out saying I want to love this person. There is no reason or rhyme for falling in love. Fundamental religious beliefs between Islam and other faiths (read 1, 2) could certainly bring complexities to many interfaith couples. Most Islamic communities believe that a marriage must be “accepted” by Allah. For this reason, a Muslim would expect the non-Muslim spouse to convert to Islam before an Islamic wedding ceremony, the Nikah. This practice (expectation of conversion of the non-Muslim spouse for Nikah) can be challenged based on today’s pluralistic world view. The same can be said for orthodox Christian or Catholic communities for asking for conversion prior to a church wedding. A Hindu may not ask the Muslim intended spouse to convert to Hinduism but will certainly want him or her to follow certain Hindu practices. It is important also to understand Quran 2:221, “Do not marry women who associate others with Allah (polytheists, idolaters), until they believe in Allah. A believing bonded woman is better than a woman who associates others with Allah, even if she pleases you. Do not marry men who associate others with Allah until they believe in Allah. A believing bonded man is better than a man who associates others with Allah, even if he pleases you…” This verse is cited to compel conversion before marriage, but it simply says that compatibility is the key to the success of any marriage. God loves harmony among his creation, particularly the married couples. In the above verse, the wisdom of the Quran emphasizes compatibility and suggests marrying a person who is on the same wavelength as you are, rather than a person with a conflicting belief. We need to understand the essence of God’s wisdom rather than the literal text (for example, Allah and Ishvar), as the words do expand and shrink in meaning. Everyone is a believer, whether you are a Muslim, Pagan or a Hindu, as far you do believe in accountability of your karma (or action). Even atheists have their beliefs. Atheists of today are responsible and accountable for their actions, sometimes more than some religious people. In Islam, there is a prohibition to the marriage of Muslims to polytheists or idolatress, however Hindus are not polytheists nor idol-worshipers. They have liberty to express the God by many names and forms, as is clearly expressed in Rig Veda; as Ekam sat, vipra bahudha vadanti (there is only one Truth, but expressed in various ways). The forms and names are options available to a Hindu but are not mandatory. A practicing Hindu may not use any form or name of God while meditating but may want to use an iconic representation of God (murti) during pooja (worship). The authors will leave interpretations of scriptural statements to the couple in love. Dilip Amin On Saturday, June 4, 2022, 08:36:39 AM PDT, Msa40 wrote: Dr. Dilip, Mike Ghouse has emerged as a new scholar of Islam. Can you please have him tell us, with quotes from the Quran, if it permits interpretation of its verses? Mohammad Asghar -----Original Message----- From: Dilip Amin wrote: Dear Dilip, As per Islamic teaching - Final no if and but. Muslim man can marry to Non-Muslims woman like Jews and Christians the people of book. Some scholars says Santana Suvarna Dharma Hindu are worshipper of one and only Eshwar and people of the book Muslim can marry them. But today they are worshipping 27 Gods and Goddesses Idols. Majority of the scholars have the opinion it is not permitted. The Holy Quran forced Muslim boys to marry Muslim girls, poor, not beautiful, even they are not pleases you. But marry them because they are more better than non-Muslim girls. Muslim Girls marrying to Non-Muslim boys - It is forbidden. Strictly tell the father, mother and brothers that do not marry your daughter to Non-Muslims. Here Under all evidence mentioned from the Holy Quran. This is the final ruling. No arguments. No XYZ talk non-sense. 👇👇👇👇👇👇👇👇 AL Quran 5:5 This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And [lawful in marriage are] chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking [secret] lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers. “And do not marry Al-Mushrikaat (idolatresses) till they believe (worship Allah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you…” [al-Baqarah 2:221] Can a Muslim man marry a Christian or Jewish woman? It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a non-Muslim woman if she is Christian or Jewish, but it is not permissible for him to marry a non-Muslim woman who follows any religion other than these two. Can a Muslim man marry a non-Muslim woman? But it is not permissible for a Muslim man to marry a Magian (Zoroastrian) woman or a communist woman or an idol-worshipping woman, etc. The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And do not marry Al-Mushrikat (idolatresses) till they believe (worship Allah Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you” [al-Baqarah 2:221] A mushrikah is an idol-worshipping woman who worships stones, whether from among the Arabs or others. Can a Muslim woman marry a non-Muslim man? It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man from any other religion, whether from among the Jews or Christians, or any other religion. It is not permissible for her to marry a Jew, a Christian , a Magian, a communist, an idol-worshipper, etc. Evidence for the prohibition of marrying a non-Muslim man The evidence for that is the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikun till they believe (in Allah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikun) invite you to the Fire, but Allah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember.” [al-Baqarah 2:221] On Fri, Jun 3, 2022 at 2:07 AM Dilip Amin wrote: Now our article is published in Patheos. Since Patheos is not letting put comments, I am using InterfaithShaadi for it. Here, I am also including Iftekhar's messages and photo too. Please provide comments there, not in this email trail since it is difficult to follow (at least for me!) Please share it widely. We wish to hear from both Muslim and Hindu community leaders about it. Based on that, we may write a follow up article for more clarification. We wish to hear from all, thank you. Hindu-Muslim Marriage and Application of Pluralism Hindu-Muslim Marriage and Application of Pluralism A “Hindu” can marry a Muslim without conversion. Dilip Amin On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 09:57:38 PM PDT, JJ < wrote: There is not a single guidance from Qur'aan; which works in real Life. -----Original Message----- From: Khawaja Anwar < Sent: Tue, May 31, 2022 6:13 am Subject: Marriage In Islam: 8 Quranic Verses About Marriage | Quranic Arabic CZ Here are some more Quranic verses on marriage snd husband wife relationship. MM https://www.getquranic.com/marriage-in-islam-8-quranic-verses-about-marriage/ Sent from my iPhone